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K, There's no doubt in my mind.  Great idea.  But as you say, some of the distances are quite serious and formidable.

PMSFL !  I can visualise the big pink flashing neon light rite now>>>>>>lol

K

I have no doubt that at the very least there would be quite a few guys rabidly trying to get into the pants, and at the luscious luscious labia of some of the lovely ladies here.

my question is...how many of the ladies would be receptive?

I personally don't have much to offer. I'm not that great looking. all I have is my undying love of sexy labia.

and some of you ladies. I know for a fact are devastatingly beautiful IN your clothes, undressed you're indescribable.

Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay out of my league.

K
Brilliant idea. Of course we all can't meet in the same country, but for those of us who live in the same city, it just might be possible. For example I live in Toronto, Canada, and I have always expressed a desire to meet with large labia women in my city.
Unfortunately, no one has reached out to me, not as yet anyway, but if we can start by reaching out to each other, in an informal way,  ---- exchanging e-mail addresses, perhaps meeting to chat over a few drinks, net-working by bringing together women, blessed and gifted with large labia, and the men who are longing to meet them. Right now I am just brain-storming, but I have always felt that where there's a will, there's a way.
Maybe we can all pool our ideas and who knows where this may lead?  Let's try and give it a real shot. What do you say, guys and gals?
Cheers
Gerry

K,

Well, I mirror your sentiment, as I'm sure most on this website do.

I am STRONGLY considering setting up a free subscription list, so that we can all talk and see messages faster, as well as a real-time chat system -- I'm gonna discuss it with Labi, and see what he thinks about it.

And yeah. . .about the orgy thing, I think that would definitely happen only because people here know what they are getting into before they get into it.  We all know that we will accept each other just as we are.

Like President Obama, I am an optimist by nature, and I think that with enough of those "meetings" we could show the rest of the world exactly what they're missing out on. =0)

More importantly, you, and all the other women that are a part of our this community would be able to breathe a *sigh* of relief, knowing that every man in the room knows exactly what's in your pants (or under your skirt).  That in itself, would be liberating. =0)

- Eric

K,
Arranging a Big labia meeting would be a GREAT idea and you are right it could turn into world's most arousing event! It will make all the women like us to understand what a treasure they carry between the legs and all men to highly estimate this treasure and to respect it. Even we could institute an international "Big Labia Association" (BLA)?? What a dreams, eh?
Supposing most of you are living in America (USA, Canada etc.) I'm ready to travel 10,000 km to meet you, and could take my husband with me as he's quite enthusiastic to see some more "happy labia women" (if we can afford it).

Well,

Even though Tempest says he has nothing to offer (which I doubt he's telling the truth about), I on the other hand am completely confident in my offerings. . .

As most of you know, I am a sexy black man, with a nice well hung cock, (the following features are what my wife says are some of my best features) sexy lips, nice eyes, a sexy voice, nice strong arms, and a well-built body.

Now, I'm not full of myself or anything. . .in fact I think my humbleness would knock some of you ladies off your feet, but at the same time, I am confident in my sexuality, my looks, and of course, I believe my demeanor and poise is impeccable.  I'd be the sexiest Black President since Obama!

That said, if you think I'm hot. . .you guys/gals would LOVE my wife -- she is SMOKING HOT.  She's a nice caramel complexion latin woman, and will knock the boots of any man (or woman) in our little community. =0)

Anyway. . .let me know how you folks feel about this Live Chat and free subscription based list thing, so that I can discuss it with Labi, and get it going.  The internet can help close the gaps, that everyone is mentioning. =0)

- Eric

Eric,  
after such humble self-advertising I will wait with great impatiece the day you become the next President of US (sorry that I can't vote for you....) and to invite me to White House. Then I'll show you something you can't resist in spite of that it could lead you to impeachment (remember Bill Clinton's story). Meanwhile if you send me your picture the advertisement will be complete.

About the live chat and the rest - do it a.s.a.p.!

Ok, i didnt mean for this post to become the classifieds portion of sexylabia.. While on one hand its nice to know that men view something youve always been insecure about as sexy, Its kind of unsettling that some of the men on here have to make it all about sex... Thats not what us women come on this site for, keep that in mind...

Maya,

If you're inquisitive enough, which you seem to be, you would know that I don't have to send you my pic at all -- you'd know exactly how to find me, and believe me it isn't hard.  Still I'll send you a pic or two. . .

I'm gonna discuss the live chat and free subscription list with Labi, and make sure he's cool with it, and then I will get it setup.

And yes, unfortunately due to my flagrant disregard for non-liberal policies where people's sexuality is concerned, I probably would get impeached, because unfortunately the sentiment of most Americans mimics that of K's statement above.  She's so sure that "Thats not what us women come on this site for. . .", as if she speaks for ALL the women on the site.

K. . .

While I can understand that you are hardly even close to being a liberal person, please do not make this site, or this thread about you and your insecurities.  You know I have nothing but love for you, but it disappoints me when I see a post in which you're telling other people "that it's unsettling that some of the men on here have to make it all about sex."  So fucking what?!?  What do you care??  My argument is that it is NOT only the MEN who are making it about sex (see Maya's post in this exact thread if you need further clarification) first off; secondly, if the men (and women) on this site can make another man or woman (the site IS mostly about the women on here and their sexy parts, specifically the sexiness of their pussies, but it does "spill over" into the men who are categorized as finding those pussies sexy and having compassion for the women attached to them, thus the term "community" that even you yourself have used on many occasions) on this site feel so good, sexy and confident in themselves, and their own sexuality to the point where they feel comfortable discussing it publicly, why would you try to inhibit that at all?  As a famous rapper once said: "Don't hate the playa, hate the game."  Some of the men on this site would agree with me, I'm sure, if I referred to you as a "cock blocker".  I'm sure even some of the women would agree!

Honestly, I can see no other reason for you to think it's "unsettling" when a naturally evolving conversation on this site leads to sexual talk (which is inevitable really on a site like this).  Look at 90% of the threads on this site.  Pick a random 10, and see where the conversation leads.  It's inevitable!  When men and women start talking about their body parts, and what's GOOD about them, the conversation will typically lead to other discussions (usually about sex in one way or another).

More egregious yet is that you would actually categorize the other women on this site as "not coming on this site for that. . ." to paraphrase what you said.  Sure in the most BASIC respect you are right in that the women who visit this site don't come here initially looking for it to be a "sexual adventure" site, but when the men on here (and some of the women) make them realize exactly what the truth is, it becomes liberating for most women, so much so that they could "kiss the men" on this site (to paraphrase another woman who left a post this month [Samantha] saying just that), or even have sex with them knowing they'd be completely accepted with no preconceived notions about what their pussy should look like.  For some they can finally experience that mind-blowing orgasm, or maybe experience a man who loves to lick pussy.  Some are just looking for advice.  The reasons vary, but the point is, why would you impede progress??

Just because YOU don't come here looking for that, doesn't mean that the other women on this site immediately and consequently reject the idea of being with men on this site due to a certain level of trust that develops.  Possibly even the natural curiosity on the part of some of the women to be with a man who they know for a fact would LOVE the pussy they are endowed with.

I have not only witnessed people on this site develop sexual relationships, but I have in fact been invited to participate in a few myself by the very women on this website (thank you ladies).

So in closing, what I'm trying to say K is that I don't know why you come here (maybe you can enlighten us all), because you made it obvious in another post that we have yet to make you feel better about yourself.  Since this community has failed you as far as that goes, why still you come here is still a mystery (at least to me).  I mean you've said that you come here to help other women, but if they're looking for sexual fun with some of the men on here, and you're trying to stop that with your ill-placed opinion above, how would you define that as helping them??  You "flamed" Tempest the other day for trying to help, which was to put it simply, a bit rude and even obnoxious.

That said, my point is simple. . .just because you aren't a highly sexual woman, please don't make the assumption that the other women on this site are like you; further to that, your statement seems to implicitly suppose that the other women here should be like you.  You shouldn't ridicule the men (and women) on this site for utilizing an opportunity that could be presented in a site like this one, to develop a sexual relationship with someone else who they are aware would accept them for who they are.  That becomes a SexyLabia.com success story, not a "K says you shouldn't do this, because that's not the main purpose of the site," story.

Like I've told you in my post where I defended Tempest, and it's making itself more evident as each day passes, there is something deeper that you have to figure out introspectively with yourself K, because lately, to put it bluntly K, you seem to have a stick up your ass.  Your outlook on the world represents one of cynicism and complete distrust.  Most of the women on here will eventually provide their real name after the others make them feel comfortable enough to do that.  Some will share pictures.  Some will even start providing their e-mail address.  In fact, it usually happens in that order.  You all these years later, are still simply known as "K".  No e-mail.  No pics.  No real name.  Just "K".  This isn't to say any of those things are requirements, it's simply to point out that your view on the world is still very distrustful, and before you can learn to trust others, you'll first have to learn how to trust yourself, and the decisions you make as a person.  I mean let's say your name was "Kassandra", would you believe beyond a reasonable doubt that someone would readily identify you by just your first name??  I'm the politician in our community and I of ALL people don't even give a shit about using my full name.  I'm a public figure currently, and readily searchable on the internet, yet I still provide my full name.  I understand you have a LONG way to go before you'll reach my level of confidence, but do you really distrust the community that much that you can't share even the most BASIC information about yourself??  It just demonstrates your level of distrust for the world at large.  I'm not saying trust everyone, but this "community" which you claim to be part of doesn't even know who you are.  Look at Maya. . .confident, probably sexy, as most of the women on this site are, and trustful enough to provide a name, and an e-mail address to HER "community" which she is part of.  Sure the world is full of perverts and some pretty fucked up people, but for every one of those people, there 50 more people
who are more like us.

Live and let live.  Don't bash people for what they do on this site.

On that note, Maya, fortunately I won't be running for President, because I'd get impeached because of the fact that most Americans UNFORTUNATELY represent K's sentiment [highly judgmental of others, and starkly conservative sometimes to the point of being primitive], and would not accept me for the man that I am.  I do plan to run for an office locally where I live, and maybe even Governor of my state should that be my path.  I'd of course have to LIE about my personal life (which is a shame really), and have to talk Labi into removing ALL of my comments on this site. =0)  I don't enjoy having to be dishonest, but I know that public opinion would be swayed moreover by the lies they think are true about me instead of by the truth (unless humankind evolves tremendously in the next 5-10 years time).

Anyway, like I always say. . .love it or hate it, it's always the truth that comes out of my mouth no matter what.

- Eric Gillette

don't you think that's kind of an unfair thing to say K?

You can read the answers we give and it becomes pretty apparent that this is more that just a sexual issue for us.

And you must remember it was you that first mentioned that something like this might turn into an orgy.  

once the seed was planted nature just took over.

Eric,  

I was just about to email you to discuss some of the things you just said.

Maybe we do share a brain.  

except that I'm more libertarian than liberal.

I hope K keeps coming back here after all that.  

I like coming to this site cos it's fun, sexy, titillating and also informative. I hope it stays that way.

Haha... Eric, I think its funny that you think you know me SOO well. Seriously... get over yourself. You're probably one of the cockiest people I've ever come across... You can call it confidence if you want but, when someone BRAGS about how humble they are, like you did above, its pretty transparent. I mean seriously.. re-read that thread. The fact that YOU are calling ME rude and even obnoxious is rediculous. Its funny how  a woman with an opinion and backbone  speaking out on here, gets your panties all in a bunch..  

Ok, and at what point did i try to make this thread (which I did happen to start by the way) about myself and my insecurities? Never once did i mention my insecurities in this thread.. Nor have i bashed anybody for "discussing sex publicly". I mean helllloooo isnt that what we've all been doing? Myself included? When i said that its unsettling that some men have to make this whole thing about sex, what i shouldve said is that its unsettling that some of you men have to make this whole discussion board so raunchy and perverted. I really dont think thats what Labi Amore had in mind when he started this website. And i think its probably off putting to some of the newcomers to this website, particularly teenage girls who come across this website and realize for the first time that they are "normal". I think most women on here would agree that they would much rather have their labia called beautiful,  than the perverted terms that some of you men have chosen to refer to them as. !
This website had a lot more impact, at least on myself, when the men on here displayed a certain level of class and had an obvious appreciation for the beauty of the female body. These days, if im being HONEST, it just sounds like a bunch of old perverts, with an odd fetish, rather than the average man who can appreciate differences in women's body types. If you look back over the years, almost every woman who came to this site, was so grateful, sometimes to the point of tears, to find a place where their body is appreciated. A lot of which, myself included, were looking into labiaplasty and accidentally came upon this website instead. Kinda sad that it recently has turned into a forum for men to try to get women to send pictures to them or even meet for sexual purposes. Seems to me like some of you are taking advantage of these women's insecurities, and using them for your own sexual gratification.  

You're right, I shouldnt have spoken for all of the women on this website when i said "thats not what we come here for". I think it was more an error in typing than anything else bc i know everybody is different.  Maybe that IS what SOME of the women come here for.. I dont know. But i do know that I've actually spoken to some of the women on here through emails who have expressed to me that they even feel silly for sending pics of themselves to you men, but they were doing it in a desperate attempt for a compliment that would make them feel good about themselves. And you know what.. I totally understand that. And i have NOT judged them. Ive been tempted to send my pics on here, to you even, for the same reasons. And I cant even tell you how glad I am now that i didnt.. now that i see you're obnoxious, cocky personality for what it really is.


And Eric, you dont have to understand my reasons for coming to this website. And i certainly dont NEED to justify them to you.. But for arguments sake, i'll just say this.. I never expected this website to fully build my self esteem... so to say that this website has "failed me" is rediculous, bc its not up to a website to "make me feel better" about myself.  I come here because i dont know anybody in the real world who has a pussy like mine and understands.... So its nice to hear from women who do. I also come so that i can ask questions about things women deal with such as tilted uteruses, labia discomfort, squirting, etc..  

Again, why you think you know me so well is beyond me.. So far you've managed to determine ( in your own presumptuous mind) that im extremely conservative, that im not a highly sexual woman, and that i have some kind of conspiracy theory against the world and trusting others because i choose not to share photos and post my name on the website. Oh, and that "theres something deeper i need to figure out about myself introspectively" LOL seriously? Let me guess... you have plans for a career in psychology too?? And all of that because i think its unsettling that this message board has lost a little bit of class...  

Oh, and you can stop saying that you "have nothing but love" for me, cus its clear that we dont like each other, so thats just nonsense.

Now, I didnt address every little thing you said bc its clear to me that there are just some things that you and i are never going to agree on.. However.. i couldnt just not defend myself at all cus that just wouldnt be me...

That's nice K

I truly am happy that you have found a place to ask questions about the things that concern you, I hope that SOME of your questions got answered to your satisfaction.

It's just too bad that you've come to this site, where so many of the people, in my opinion, to seek refuge from judgment and get some acceptance and have cast such harsh judgment so easily.  

It's upsetting that you've become so enraged at the answers that you've received for the questions you've asked. the main recipients for your rage, Eric and I, were only trying to offer advice to someone who we thought wanted to be helped, perhaps we were wrong, but we aren't just talking out of our asses either. I don't know how old you are off hand, I'm sure it's probably in an earlier post, but I'm going to guess that you're a kind of young, and I'd also guess that the two of us have more combined married experience than you have on this earth. I know that probably means little to you, but I'm just saying that our experience and advice should at least be considered from time to time. And if our answers piss you off so easily, it could be that you've been asking some questions you don't really want answers to.

I will admit that it troubles me that some of the women have expressed some discomfort at sending out photos of themselves, that was never my intention. however those women were never forced to send the photos. I'm truly grateful to those who have sent them to me, every single one of the women I have gazed upon have been beautiful, I wish there were words to express the sights I have beheld, some have even brought tears to my eyes. I have tried my best to express my appreciation for the labia I have been allowed to view, both publicly, and privately, and the ladies who've responded to me have never expressed that they were sorry for giving me a peek. And unless I'm mistaken K, you have asked to see a few vagina recently yourself. Paint it how you want, and I'm sure you will, if you do it, then judge others for doing it, that's pretty much the definition of hypocrisy.

Am I a perv? I guess you could say that all men are a little bit pervish, any man who denies it is either a saint, or a liar. And I will admit that it was my love of the vagina that led me here. And do we get a bit raunchy? You bet, but when you mention that a large labia convention would probably become an orgy. I see it as hypocritical to suddenly be above all that when people start talking about the possible outcome that you yourself said was a possibility. You said that you have the site has lost a bit of class. perhaps this isn't the place for you then. You've pointed out in no uncertain terms that we don't know you, so I won't argue with you on this one, but just from observation I'd say that you have issues you need to work through. When you've done that, maybe can have a constructive conversation here.  

Until then, I'm through with you.

Likewise Tempest..

K. . .

I don't claim to know you at all. . .aall I know about you is by what you have spoken about here.  I'm glad you think I'm cocky, because I'm sure many people will agree with you, and I'm also sure that there will be a number who disagree.  To be honest, quite frankly I've been called a humble person by most of the people who know me personally, so the opinion of someone who has been highly critical of others in her own hypocritical way will not faze me at all.  It's not about you "speaking out" or "having a backbone" (again another implicit remark to suggest that other women haven't been the same way on this website), as other men/women on here have spoken out on here just as you have, but the difference is, in most respects, they don't try to "knock" other people for what they do on this website, nor do they imply that the general population of this website shares their opinions, feelings, regards, impulses, values, or otherwise.  It's what makes this place so dynamic I think, and in fact is one of the driving forces that gets me to come back over and over, the fact that people can express themselves, and not be JUDGED.  If you think that I'm "transparent" as you so eloquently put it, then I guess we've completely misunderstood each other. =0/

***** Ok, and at what point did i try to make this thread (which I did happen to start by the way) about myself and my insecurities? Never once did i mention my insecurities in this thread.. Nor have i bashed anybody for "discussing sex publicly". *****

At what point you ask??  Let me quote you directly:

". . .Its kind of unsettling that some of the men on here have to make it all about sex... Thats not what us women come on this site for, keep that in mind..."

(A) If that isn't clear enough for you. . .it's your assumption that despite the fact that you believe I try to claim to "know you", you in fact do the same exact thing yourself, right in that sentence.  How do YOU know what people come here for??  You group yourself with the other women on this site, some of whom DO NOT share your opinion.  But you want to speak on their behalf as if someone declared you the spokeperson for the women of SexyLabia.com -- that's just downright boisterous, and demonstrates your OWN insecurities.  I hope I've made myself clear, because one thing that I don't do is repeat myself.

***** I mean helllloooo isnt that what we've all been doing? Myself included? When i said that its unsettling that some men have to make this whole thing about sex, what i shouldve said is that its unsettling that some of you men have to make this whole discussion board so raunchy and perverted. *****

Well, maybe that's what you should've said then, because what you said, and in fact how you said it, is what prompted my reply above.  It's not to say that you have to "perfect" when you say things on here, but I think to some degree, we are all accountable for the things we say here.  If you didn't want to be misconstrued, then you shouldn't have misconstrued yourself.  Further to that, if you believe that some of the men (I've seen the women do it too though), make the discussion board so "raunchy and perveted", then simply take the high road, and ignore their posts.  It's really that simple.  This forum is moderated by ONE person, and that is Labi, who I have spoken with personally, and he is VERY liberal about the things people can say on here, short of abusing another individual obviously.  That said, this board is NOT moderated by YOU "K", or anyone else for that matter, therefore it is just as hypocritical of you to say that you say something yourself, but then try to "control or redirect" the conversation based on what YOU think people should be talking about.  Sure you "authored" the thread, but that is the point where it stops being YOUR thread, and becomes a public thread for people to say whatever they want.  Will teenage girls stumble across the threads and get the wrong idea. . .maybe. . .sometimes. . .but the point of this site is not to save the world, which would be a noble cause, but it's to engage the female/male reader who is interested in the topic of women's inner and outer labia, and what makes them beautiful just the way they are (thus the name of the site).  Where the conversation goes from there is totally up to the reader, and the respondent's on this site (minus abusive responses directed at one individual obviously).  Why would YOU try to control that, or try to dictate what people SHOULD be talking about because of your OWN opinions??  I agree that some of the men (and women) here go "overboard", but that is just MY opinion, I would never try to dictate or stipulate what people SHOULD be talking about on here based on my own opinions.  If you're "outspoken" then you're considered an angel, as I've been equally if not MORE outspoken than you have with certain things, but I would never try to control or dictate what people say on this site because of my own opinions.  And ironically, you called ME "cocky" and said I was "transparent", but have you really considered the implications of what you just said?  The things you dislike in a person are typically the same things you dislike about yourself in one way or another.  So my dear "pot", are you trying to call the kettle black here??

***** This website had a lot more impact, at least on myself, when the men on here displayed a certain level of class and had an obvious appreciation for the beauty of the female body. These days, if im being HONEST, it just sounds like a bunch of old perverts, with an odd fetish, rather than the average man who can appreciate differences in women's body types.*****

Again, some of us have been here for awhile, some of us haven't been here for awhile.  Perhaps some of the men, as I indicated above are a little "over-the-top" in both our opinions, still, they are entitled to say what they want.  You opinion is just that. . .your opinion.  You can't control what people say on this discussion board, only one person can do that and that is Labi.  And Labi is a pretty nice guy (as I said, I've spoken with him at least once or twice), and if he believes that what is being said is good enough to put on this board, then who are YOU to doubt his judgment, or try to change the way he chooses to run HIS site which you are just a "member" of??  This isn't to say he's not open to positive criticism, but I think Labi would agree with me in that some of what is said on here (even the more conservative things) will be enough to put off some of the teenage girls who visit this site, yet for the overwhelming majority (see for yourself) it will not sway their opinions from the fact that their private parts are beautiful and desired insatiably by most red-blooded males (pervs or not).  What you're trying to do "K", is to force your opinion on other people, and that's not cool.  We live in America, where staunch democracy is the basis with which our country was founded -- it's what caused us to break away from England in the first place.  People got tired of ONE person (you in this case) telling them what to do, and trying to dictate what was "acceptable" in their own lives.  This is not North Korea or Iran "K", and I think if anyone needs to get over themselves, you of all people should practice what you preach.


***** If you look back over the years, almost every woman who came to this site, was so grateful, sometimes to the point of tears, to find a place where their body is appreciated. A lot of which, myself included, were looking into labiaplasty and accidentally came upon this website instead. Kinda sad that it recently has turned into a forum for men to try to get women to send pictures to them or even meet for sexual purposes. Seems to me like some of you are taking advantage of these women's insecurities, and using them for your own sexual gratification. *****

Again, this is simply YOUR opinion, not the fact.  If two people want to meet up and have sex, why would you try to stop that??  Let me guess, because YOU don't believe in it??  There was a time when people did not want to believe that the Earth was NOT the center of the galaxy.  They'd burn other people at the stake and call them "witches".  Yet still, it did not change the fact that the Earth was STILL not the center of the galaxy.  That's the beauty about facts. . .no matter what anyone says or believes, facts cannot be changed, just as in this case.  You call it "taking advantage" of a woman's insecurities, and maybe for some women that may have happened, but that happens even OFF this website!  And it doesn't just happen to women, it also happens to men!  Are you going to try to stop it from from occurring out in the world at large too??  Seriously "K", you need to relax, and let people do what they want -- even if your opinion on it differs.  You're probably right in that perhaps some women have been taken advantage of, but then I would also consider the fact that the majority of the women on here, HAVE NOT been taken advantage of, and know exactly what they are doing with they decide to exchange contact information, and engage in consensual sex with another male or female on this website.  See "K", statistics show and demonstrate that in most cases, people do not share their positive experiences, while most people DO share their negative experiences, and "animosities" towards people, events, circumstances, companies, and so forth.  If that had been the case with this site, there would've likely been a "SexyLabiaSucks.com" website already to warn of the potential calamity one might be in store for if exchanging contact information with people on this website.  On the same side of that coin, we can reasonably assume, based on the many positive experiences people have posted on the site, that what you speculate about, isn't the common scenario.  Also, I would think that many of the women (and some of the men) who visit this site, and participate in the discussions wouldn't mention some of the positive experiences they have with one another for obvious reasons as well.

***** You're right, I shouldnt have spoken for all of the women on this website when i said "thats not what we come here for". I think it was more an error in typing than anything else bc i know everybody is different.  Maybe that IS what SOME of the women come here for.. I dont know. But i do know that I've actually spoken to some of the women on here through emails who have expressed to me that they even feel silly for sending pics of themselves to you men, but they were doing it in a desperate attempt for a compliment that would make them feel good about themselves. And you know what.. I totally understand that. And i have NOT judged them. Ive been tempted to send my pics on here, to you even, for the same reasons. And I cant even tell you how glad I am now that i didnt.. now that i see you're obnoxious, cocky personality for what it really is.  *****

I can understand your sentiment "K", but read my statement above marked as (A).  I'm sure some of the women feel silly, but then I'm sure that an equal number, if not larger number of the women don't.  So this is really a rhetorical thing to talk about, and ultimately why you should not have made any assumptions, or tried to "interject" your opinion as the "norm" of what people should be talking about.  Like attracts like.  It's the law of the universe.  The women who may have felt "silly" about sending the men and women pictures on this site may be of the same opinion as you, so therefore the fact that they tell you that they feel "silly" would make total sense, because you also feel "silly" sending pics to other people on this site (you don't feel "silly" asking for pics though, which I think is kind of ironic).  You attract people to you often times that are like you in many respects.  This time is likely no different.  I'm disappointed that you think I'm obnoxious and cocky.  I mentioned that you were acting that way in your thread, but I would never make the assertion that your personality on a whole is that way.  Either way, I'm slighted in no way by your statement, because again, it's just your opinion, and doesn't mirror the facts. =0)

***** And Eric, you dont have to understand my reasons for coming to this website. And i certainly dont NEED to justify them to you.. But for arguments sake, i'll just say this.. I never expected this website to fully build my self esteem... so to say that this website has "failed me" is rediculous, bc its not up to a website to "make me feel better" about myself.  I come here because i dont know anybody in the real world who has a pussy like mine and understands.... So its nice to hear from women who do. I also come so that i can ask questions about things women deal with such as tilted uteruses, labia discomfort, squirting, etc.. *****

I understand exactly what you're saying "K", and in fact your statement here just exacerbates my point with a nice fat underscore!  The point is, and you just said it, you don't have to justify anything to me. . .now maybe you should take your own advice, and make it so that no one else has to justify themselves to you.  That means keeping your opinions about what people talk about here to yourself.  Make sense?? =0)

***** Again, why you think you know me so well is beyond me.. So far you've managed to determine ( in your own presumptuous mind) that im extremely conservative, that im not a highly sexual woman, and that i have some kind of conspiracy theory against the world and trusting others because i choose not to share photos and post my name on the website. Oh, and that "theres something deeper i need to figure out about myself introspectively" LOL seriously? Let me guess... you have plans for a career in psychology too?? And all of that because i think its unsettling that this message board has lost a little bit of class...*****

No, no Psychology degree in my future, only a law degree.  And if you really READ what I said, you would know that it isn't based on the post you made HERE only. . .it's based on some of the other threads you've responded on as well.  I don't claim to know you so well at all "K", I can only go by what you SAY in these threads.  I'm not the only one who perceives you as "conservative", some of the same men and women I have spoken with on this site agree with my assertions about you.  Again, the facts lie in your own words, and cannot be changed.  My opinion, and perhaps your own opinion that maybe you're not conservative are just opinions at this point.  The facts are in your OWN posts on this website.  The main difference between you and I is that I can admit when I am wrong about something, and can even agree to disagree, and STILL get along with you fine after all is said and done (Live and Let Live, like I keep saying), you on the other hand seem to harbor ill feelings toward me for being true to you just as you have been to me.  Oh well. . .in my 30 years, I've learned 1 infallible thing, you cannot please every one every time.

*****Oh, and you can stop saying that you "have nothing but love" for me, cus its clear that we dont like each other, so thats just nonsense.*****

K, I say how I feel.  I don't harbor animosity or ill-feelings toward you over this conversation or any conversation that has occured, or will occur in the future.  I'm just not that kind of person.  I still like you, I still like your opinions, but my point is to point that your opinions, are JUST opinions, and do not dictate (nor should they) what people on here are allowed to talk about in ANY respect.  I still got love for you, even if you don't feel the same.  If we end up meeting in person at some labia convention like the initial point of your post suggested, I think your opinion of me would change rather quickly, because you'd realize just what kind of person I am.  I think we've just "misunderstood" each other here.

*****Now, I didnt address every little thing you said bc its clear to me that there are just some things that you and i are never going to agree on.. However.. i couldnt just not defend myself at all cus that just wouldnt be me...*****

And that is EXACTLY why I like you!  You don't take anything "lying down" (well maybe you do take SOME things lying down *wink*), and I'm not saying you shouldn't or can't have an opinion, I'm simply saying (and have been saying from the beginning) that your opinions (based on your own personal experiences, emotions, and insecurities) should NOT try to dictate what people can talk about on here.  I've repeated myself now twice, something I don't like to do myself, but I think in this case, it's worth it. =0)

We can agree to disagree "K" on all the other points, and you know what??  At the end of the day, we can still talk, and have reasonable conversation with each other.  Hell, if your boyfriend was cool with it, I'd still even lick your pussy while you curse me out.  After a couple orgasms, I'm sure you wouldn't be cursing AT me anymore!

In closing, I'd just like to let you know, I don't dislike you, and have NO ill-feelings towards you at ALL, especially not over ONE or TWO conversations where we've had a difference of opinion. =0)

Take it how you want it "K". . .

- Eric

Dear Eric and K,
I read your long speeches with difficulty because I'm not used to American English, but I hope I understood your ideas. As an engineer I prefer to be brief and exact. Sex, sexiness and sexuality are one of major parameters of this site. That's why men join and participate our discussions. Most of the women here (including myself) as well. If we discussed just the woman's anatomy the site would turn into dull medical forum, thousands of which could be found on Internet, and nobody would pay any attention to it.

So, K, don't judge people for their liberality, leave the prejudices in the past! Read carefully Eric's post once more and you will see he is right.

Mr. President Eric, I endorse your attitude, your way of thinking is similar to mine. You should move to Europe where you will be much better understood. Yet, it would be much easier for me to find you :)
Also, as you said, I dont suffer from prejudices, I,m proud with my sexuality, with the look of what I have between the legs, and my friends affirm that I'm sexy. That's why I don't hide behind the computer and don't use fake names. My real name is Maya Stephanova from Sofia, Bulgaria, and my real email address is above. If somebody explain me how to post pictures I would be glad to show this community how I look.

It bothers me that you think Im trying to control people on here. Because i think thats your main issue with me, and its not even true! I never once told people what they could or could not talk about. Ive merely stated my own opinion, which is what YOU keep saying we should all be able to do. Do some of the things on here bother me? yes.. and if i want to express that, im free to do that. It doesnt mean that I'm trying to tell other people how to live. You seem to jump to conclusions and make mountains out of mole hills here. Youre totally off base in some of your statements.  

My reason for saying that i didnt intend for this thread to become the classified portion of Sexylabia was to clarify that that was not MY intention in saying that.. bc i dont wanna be perceived as someone who's willing to hook up for sex...I was CLARIFYING.  If others want to do that, then thats fine.. do what you do.  But THEN.. you wrote an entire fucking journal entry personally attacking me and labeling me... making me out to be some kind of stuck up, judgemental bitch to all of the newcomers on this website who only know me by the last week of conversations which has only been my arguments with you and Tempest. This all started because the two of you continuously called me dishonest bc of the way i choose to handle my insecurities about my body within my relationship. You feel like i should tell my boyfriend whereas i feel like the way im choosing to handle it is working for me.. If you had just stated ur opinion, WITHOUT making assumptions about me, i would of handled the situation a lot differently.  It started off with you telling me that i was "making excuses" for not sending pictures, then calling me dishonest.But somehow, THAT wasnt telling me how to live my life??? Or judging ME?? Then all of a sudden im a "non-liberal, cynical, rude, obnoxious, judgemental cock-blocker", AND you even implied that i dont belong on this website as if YOU are the website's moderator. What kind of reaction did you expect from me??  

Maybe I am a little bit conversative, particularly compared to others on here, but so what? I dont particularly LIKE the label "conservative" bc where i might be conservative on some topics, im completely liberal on others... My thoughts and opinions are not condensed to ONE category.. Im more open than you give me credit for.  
And i dont try to speak on behalf of all the women on here. I only type one name in the "Name or Alias" box and thats "K".. not "K and the rest of the women on Sexylabia" Therefore what i type represents MY opinion. If you want to interpret the things i say as me speaking for all women when Ive ALREADY clarified that thats not what i meant.. then go for it.  You repeat urself more than you realize Eric, bc ive already had to argue the same points to you more than once because after ive already defended something, you bring it up again in ur next post..... I HAVE agreed to disagree and i HAVE admitted where i was wrong.. despite what you say.



I can honestly say, despite all of this bullshit, that i can still appreciate the positive comments that both you and Tempest have made towards me in the past. It just feels like the focus of this website has shifted. And as someone who has coming here for literally years to HELP myself towards building my confidence, that does bother me. And i shouldnt have to defend myself in saying that. I come to this website for several reasons... It does make me feel good (makes me feel good.. not fixes my insecurities. Cus God knows if i didnt just clarify that, you woulda went back and copy and pasted where i said its not up to a website to make me feel better about myself)  when i hear you men make positive tasteful comments about it.. every now and then i do like to hear freaky shit about pussies like mine..but not constantly, (and YES i am only referring to MY preference here, hence the word "I".) I wanna be seen as sexy just like anybody else... The only reason i even elaborated about my thoughts that things have gotten a little less tasteful around here is because YOU pushed the topic and left me having to defend my reasons for stating that all women arent here for that. I have for a long time been wondering, and struggling with whether or not the average man actually finds what i have sexy, or if you guys just have a weird fetish.. I dont see why that offends you so much.. bc the fact of the matter is, I DONT know you..


At the end of the day, i stand by everything ive said and i make no apologies for my opinions just bc you interpret them incorrectly. Ive already explained myself and explained myself again. It is what it is at this point. Im not interested in arguing any further.

Guys,

Having screened this thread, ive found myself a little lost in finding a conclusion. Could someone please summise for me!

K, you are quite right not to apologise for any opinion you express, but i urge you to take heed in the fact that although the labia in it's most simplistic form is just another moving part, it is also sexualised in the fact that it brings pleaseure to others.
People will always nudge on the boundary line, but please dont take offence. It may possibly be easier to step back and let others continue on their own personal adventure, rather than see it as a slur on your own personal preference.

Eric, i have found my self seduced by the eloquence of your writing and have now decided that you are a literary genius


Stay happy

x

Maya:

Maya Stephanova. . .from Bulgaria. =0)

I have actually considered moving to Europe believe it or not!

Perhaps at least a trip to Europe is in my near future.

I'm specifically attracted to the fact that the European Union is attempting to do what should have been done eons ago to unify the world at large in defining a single currency standard, health care standard, and other things that reflect in the people of a nation being able to "bootstrap" themselves!

Caramel:

Thanks for the kind words love. . .as I said, I don't feel slighted by "K" at all. . .and I hope she feels the same way.  The whole point of us communicating the way we do is to learn from one another, and like I've said before "Live and Let Live".  Her and I simply have a difference of opinion, but I would NEVER let our difference of opinion impede on my overall attitude towards her, because at the end of the day, difference or indifference is what makes us all attractive to one another.  Could you really imagine a world where everyone was exactly the same, or every had the SAME exact opinion.  That would be exorbitantly boring wouldn't it?

And finally "K". . .

Yeah, yeah, I don't like to repeat myself, but like I said, if I feel it's worth it, I will repeat myself.  Where you're concerned I don't mind repeating myself. =0)

I typically become annoyed when I have to repeat myself to a salacious individual, that under normal circumstances would otherwise not get the time of day from me, but when it's someone who really is just dialoging with me in the same tone, I instead become more malleable.

In our case "K", I agree that we disagree on many of the things we spoke about, and perhaps I let my composure slip a little in my ranting about your statement, but yes it does, as you put it: "get my panties in a bunch" when I perceive what appears to be someone trying to tell others what to do in a public forum, or more so appearing to tell others that because they do something that it's wrong, or that it is perceived by the majority to be wrong; that is what my perception was when I saw your statement.  If I misinterpreted what you said, and I don't think I did, I completely apologize.  I don't mince my words, but at the same time, I will apologize if anything I said hurt your feelings or made you feel bad, because my intent was to point out the poignant facts -- not to put you down, or appear condescending towards you in ANY way whatsoever.  While I do not apologize for my opinions (that would be a form of blasphemy against one's own self), I absolutely DO apologize if the incisiveness of my words to you came across as wanton, overwrought, or intemperate to your feelings as a person.  When I said, 'I have nothing but love for you', I didn't say we'd agree on everything, but I did intend to let you know that I revere the relationship that only a website like this has allowed us to develop with one another.  That isn't just for me and you but for some of the other men and women whom I've become pretty good friends with as well.  I hope that after all is said and done, you will have the same feeling as well.

Like I always say, it's not always good, not always bad, but what comes out of my mouth is ALWAYS the truth! =0)

- Eric

k,  

I can appreciate your initial anger at me, and for that I have apologized a number of times. If you had accepted that and appreciated the fact that some of the words spoken were a little hasty and left it alone when you said you were over it in the first place I'm sure we would not still be talking about this.

But instead you continued to talk about this, not to us, but at us for over a week, and then voiced your opinion about the whole "orgy" thing, which only added to the fire.

In the end it's your body is yours to share with and show to whomever you choose, and that's the way it should be. I never meant to make it seem that I was attacking you because you wouldn't show you mine, and I'm sorry it seemed that way.

I do still think that you owe it to your boyfriend and yourself to be completely honest if you plan a future with him. And yes I do consider omission a form of dishonesty, but I suppose you will take care of this matter in your own time.

Go into a room and scream or something, but don't blame eachother please! This is not a site for that!